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PostSubject: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Tue May 12, 2009 6:43 pm

Ok so here's the deal. I have just moved into a new house with my GF and a couple of work mates. We just got our ADSL2+ connection sorted out (yay! i may finally be able to pvp) and i am tryin to convince my new flatmates to join embers, and possibly migrate their blizz characters here.

I know that dual logging has been banned, and so i would like to confirm if it is ok or not for them to set up their own accounts (that i of course will not be using) even though we will have the same IP?

-Spydy

btw. i had made a 2nd account awhile back with one guy on it (mage/enchanter) but as dual logging has been banned i'd like to know if i can move him to my main account and just delete the 2nd one? I'm gussin the answer is no, but thought i'd ask just in case... cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Tue May 12, 2009 11:23 pm

yeah of course its legal to set them own accounts. IP is same on many ppl who play from cafes etc.
I have other ways to determine is it the 1 and same player with multiple accounts Razz
so dont worry about that. just get more players and we will have even more fun cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Wed May 13, 2009 1:57 am

gotta love you Sypdy:D

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Wed May 13, 2009 9:23 am

If they are playing on the same machine they will have the same IP but, if they each have a different machine the IP will be slightly different at the end. Such as an IP 67.912.21.331 the next IP a machine will automatically acquire would be 67.912.21.332 and so on for how ever many machines are connected to one internet source. And yes there is more than one way to find out if someone is multi boxing. Hope this information eases your mind about your roomies playing.

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Thu May 14, 2009 5:31 am

Not strictly true pere, i share my connection with my dad and my brother, due ot how we are connected (some sort of one line split thing, I don't really know myself, I leave the technical shit ot my dad best I can) but anyways we all have an identical IP, asif we are all on the same machine. Depends how the network is setup really Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Thu May 14, 2009 7:10 am

yeah it can be same but your computer still has own "fingerprint" what can be used to trace you.
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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Thu May 14, 2009 10:11 am

yea it depends on the network, with most networks tho you make each computer connected to the network auto acquire a new IP.

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 pm

I'll break it down for ya..

MODEM = a device given/sold to you from the company you get Internet from.
ROUTER = a device that splits networks up - Takes a single PUBLIC IP address and assigns every device it's own PRIVATE IP address.
PUBLIC IP ADDRESS = The IP address that is broadcast to everyone else on the Internet. You can find your PUBLIC IP by going to www.whatsmyip.net
PRIVATE IP ADDRESS = The IP address that your router assigns to you. Only devices inside your network can see your PRIVATE IP address (generally speaking).
PORT Number = A doorway of sorts for a connection to be made over a network. There are over 65000 ports available. If an IP address what the physical address of your apartment building, the PORT number would be your apartment number.

So with those terms out of the way... here's how things work for MOST people.
Your Internet provider gives you a single PUBLIC IP address (normally you have to pay for additional PUBLIC IP addresses). That PUBLIC IP is given to your router which gives your router access to the Internet. Your router then gives out a different PRIVATE IP address to each device (computer, laptop, some printers, etc) on your network. All those devices can share your private network resources such as Internet, printers, file sharing, etc.

Now lets tie this into the online game world...
Every connection over the Internet needs an IP address so it knows where to go. Even when you connect to a game server. Every player has to connect to the same game server's PUBLIC IP address. To keep things organized, the game server (and every server or program that connects to the Internet) uses PORTS. Every connection is assigned a specific PORT number so the data can return to the correct location.

With all that info let me say one more thing.. as a server admin, it can be very easy to tell if a single player is using two characters or if its two people using one character each. I only went into the very basics of things, however, I probably went into a bit too much detail already. Anyway, I hope it clears things up some.

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Fri May 15, 2009 10:36 am

thanks for the replies. We all have different PCs here connected through a big home wifi/wired network. I'm sure the GMs would have no trouble telling it was seperate people playin, cause well my flatmates would be doing things in other wow places while i was doin somthing else entirely. I have enough trouble playin one guy, much less tryin to do 2 things at once. lol...

I will try to get them on, but can't promise they will stick around. They both are full time students, and get distracted easy by RL... I myself am busy tryin to finish this never ending house move, and have been only on to run my dailies as of late..

Once the dust settles from all this moving crap, i'll be on more often..

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Fri May 15, 2009 10:39 am

we have been missing you around Spydy! hope you will have more time to hang with us soon Smile take care bro.

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Sun May 17, 2009 2:18 pm

Peregrinus wrote:
If they are playing on the same machine they will have the same IP but, if they each have a different machine the IP will be slightly different at the end. Such as an IP 67.912.21.331 the next IP a machine will automatically acquire would be 67.912.21.332 and so on for how ever many machines are connected to one internet source. And yes there is more than one way to find out if someone is multi boxing. Hope this information eases your mind about your roomies playing.

lol...impossible IPs...for space, each part is limited to 0-255 geek

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Sun May 17, 2009 2:24 pm

lol yea XD in your face bro XD

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Sun May 17, 2009 11:01 pm

Denyde wrote:
Peregrinus wrote:
If they are playing on the same machine they will have the same IP but, if they each have a different machine the IP will be slightly different at the end. Such as an IP 67.912.21.331 the next IP a machine will automatically acquire would be 67.912.21.332 and so on for how ever many machines are connected to one internet source. And yes there is more than one way to find out if someone is multi boxing. Hope this information eases your mind about your roomies playing.

lol...impossible IPs...for space, each part is limited to 0-255 geek

Yup.. 0-255 for the 99% of the world.. that is until we run out of IP addresses, then we'll all be forced to use IPv6.

2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334 <-- is a vaild IP address. (using IPv6)

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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Mon May 18, 2009 4:14 am

I think we have a new encyclopedia (Grawill)
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PostSubject: Re: Multi Accounts (diff people) from same IP.   Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 am

haha, but that wont be out for a WHILE...standards are always slow to move (thank you MSFT....)

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